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PostPosted: February 6th, 2010, 8:46 pm 
Puddle Jumper

Joined: November 30th, 2009, 7:14 pm
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Does anybody here wheel the old cherokees? I saw one for sale down the road on rt 44, all stock and complete with the wood grain sides. Pretty ugly in a cool way.


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PostPosted: February 6th, 2010, 8:49 pm 
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theres one in my driveway its a femail friend of mine.


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 Post subject: Re: cherokees vs wranglers
PostPosted: February 6th, 2010, 9:29 pm 
Puddle Jumper

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Wasn't the t-18 put in ford trucks first? And I thought the th400 is a gm transmission... the 727 is amazing! And YES jay... camaros are VERY homo gay... that yj you had to choose from also had a bad ax5 and the t-case needed a shift fork... I would have gone with the xj in that case too... wranglers are VERY over priced... have you seen C-list??? Those dudes are a joke... asking way to much.....


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PostPosted: February 6th, 2010, 9:50 pm 
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think those are over priced look up ANY FSJ im mean 8k for a grand wagoneer?! NO FSJ should be over 4K I dont care if its in perfect condition


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PostPosted: February 6th, 2010, 11:38 pm 
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I had an 86 wagoneer once, it cuaght on fire and burned to the ground


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PostPosted: February 6th, 2010, 11:49 pm 
Puddle Jumper

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Did those come carb with quad jets?


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 Post subject: Re: cherokees vs wranglers
PostPosted: February 7th, 2010, 2:12 am 
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Location: Kettering, OH
86jeepk5 wrote:
Wasn't the t-18 put in ford trucks first? And I thought the th400 is a gm transmission... the 727 is amazing! And YES jay... camaros are VERY homo gay... that yj you had to choose from also had a bad ax5 and the t-case needed a shift fork... I would have gone with the xj in that case too... wranglers are VERY over priced... have you seen C-list??? Those dudes are a joke... asking way to much.....


Kaiser adapted an early Buick TH400 to its V8's starting in the '60's. In the late 60's they used a Buick 350 engine & TH400 in the FSJ's. Then when AMC bought Jeep in '70 & soon they began using a TH400 that had a bellhousing pattern that matched AMC engines. In '80 they switched to a TF727 in the FSJ's that used the same amc/jeep bell housing pattern.

Kaiser began using the t18 in the 60's as did Ford and International. I am not sure who was first. All of the FSJ versions have the 6.32 first gear. Some CJ t18's used a 4.xx first gear. The Buick 350/th400/dana 20 drivetrain rocked. The buick 350/t18/dana 20 was even better.

The find in FSJ Cherokees are the wide-tracks. They have factory flares and were all 2 doors. They can fit 33's without a lift. The axles are 5" wider and the front tubes are thicker. The wide track, J10, & J20 trucks all had the 44HD tubes but only the J20 was 8 lug. J20's had D60 rears. After Chrysler bought Jeep in the 80's, the began calling the the FSJ's "SJ's" (senior jeep) to give it a name like the other products.

The amc powered FSJ's used motorcraft carbs. They are excellent off road carbs in 2 or 4 bbl.

Cherokees were a seperate line from Wagoneers. They came in 2dr narrow track and wide track ( I have one of each of these) and 4 dr narrowtrack. Wagoneers were the higher optioned vehciles, usually had woodgrain, and were all 4dr narrowtrack. FSJ's Cherokees were discontinued after '83 for the XJ. Jeepers were outraged as the first few years of XJ's were piles. They were hated as much as the first YJ's. But that was 26 years ago and many here weren't even alive then, let alone into jeeps.

They are sites out there showing some great off-road FSJ's.


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PostPosted: February 15th, 2010, 6:10 am 
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I wheel a xj because the price people want for a wrangler is ridiculous, there just a little tin box and you would think they were made of gold because the top comes off. The 4.0HO, Aw4, 231j, D30hp and 8.25 with coils for flex and leafs for stability is tough to beat. Davie's jeep is having a sale on low mileage aw4 transmissions for $75.00 a piece, what other vehicle in the world can you buy a used trans for $75.00?


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dodge rampages. you can buy complete cars for $75


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